Yahoo Unorthodox Chess Openings Newsgroups

[CLYDE NAKAMURA]

For those of you who are interested in playing unknown openings and gambits,
I do recommend that you join the Yahoo Unorthodox Chess Openings Newsgroups.
There are articles posted and game files that you can download. Group
members include myself, Eric Schiller, Kari Heinola, Rick Kennedy, Lev
Zilbermints, Larry Tapper and others. Current topics include the Mokele
Mbembe (1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Ne4) & the Devin Gambit (1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.g4) . I
have posted other unknown gambits and openings such as the Keoni-Hiva Gambit
, Hekili-Loa Gambit, the Fugu-Leong Gambit, the Regina-Nu Gambit,
Franco-Hiva Gambit and etc in previous messages. Also there is a ton of
files of games in the files section . To join the Unorthodox Chess Openings
Newsgroups you would have to go the the site listed below:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UnorthodoxChessOpenings

Another way of entering this newsgroups is by going to www.gambitchess.com
and go to UCO and enter the newsgroups. You would still have to register
before you can access this newsgroups.

Best Regards
Clyde Nakamura

[Michael Sayers]

It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".


Regards,
Michael Sayers,
Yahoo Unorthodox Chess Openings member

[Toni Lassila]

Post by Michael Sayers
It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".

From the great wit and master chess player:

"My principle - that has remained unchanged ever since that period! -
was the following: 'As long as an opening is reputed to be weak it can
be tried.'" -- Tartakower

[Michael Sayers]

Post by Toni Lassila

Post by Michael Sayers
It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".

"My principle - that has remained unchanged ever since that period! -
was the following: 'As long as an opening is reputed to be weak it can
be tried.'" -- Tartakower

The operative distinction is not that of "weakness", but of "rubbish"!

MJS

[Michael Sayers]

Post by Toni Lassila

Post by Michael Sayers
It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".

"My principle - that has remained unchanged ever since that period! -
was the following: 'As long as an opening is reputed to be weak it can
be tried.'" -- Tartakower

The operative distinction is not that of "weakness", but of "rubbish"!

MJS

[Bill Smythe]

Post by Michael Sayers
It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".

Does it include the Polish Benko, i.e. 1. d4 c5 2. d5 b5 ..... ?

Bill Smythe

[Michael Sayers]

Post by Bill Smythe

Post by Michael Sayers
It would be more accurate to rename this group "Rubbish Chess Openings".

Does it include the Polish Benko, i.e. 1. d4 c5 2. d5 b5 ..... ?
Bill Smythe

I woudln't think so.

I am thinking more along the lines of 1.d4 e5, and 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3
f6....or, for White, the horrendous 1.g4 or 1.b4.

Those last two are such rubbish, that I could get a superior position
with the Black pieces against any line of play from White.....in fact,
each of those two moves automatically places White in an inferior
position, dependent on Black errors in order to even equalise.

MJS

[Nick]

(snipped)
I am thinking more along the lines of 1.d4 e5, and
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6....or, for White, the horrendous 1.g4 or 1.b4.
Those last two are such rubbish, that I could get a superior position
with the Black pieces against any line of play from White.....in fact,
each of those two moves automatically places White in an inferior
position, dependent on Black errors in order to even equalise.

Mr Sayers, Sam Sloan (now rated 1931 USCF), a well-known writer in the
chess newsgroups, has advocated and played 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 f6 as Black and
1 g4 as White.

Perhaps after you finish your games with 'Goran Fischer', who's Lance Smith,
you should challenge Sam Sloan to play two games on RGCM, wherein you would
play 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 f6 as White and against 1 g4 as Black.

--Nick

[Michael Sayers]

Post by Nick

(snipped)
I am thinking more along the lines of 1.d4 e5, and
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6....or, for White, the horrendous 1.g4 or 1.b4.
Those last two are such rubbish, that I could get a superior position
with the Black pieces against any line of play from White.....in fact,
each of those two moves automatically places White in an inferior
position, dependent on Black errors in order to even equalise.

Mr Sayers, Sam Sloan (now rated 1931 USCF), a well-known writer in the
chess newsgroups, has advocated and played 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 f6 as Black and
1 g4 as White.
Perhaps after you finish your games with 'Goran Fischer', who's Lance Smith,
you should challenge Sam Sloan to play two games on RGCM, wherein you would
play 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 f6 as White and against 1 g4 as Black.
--Nick

Why not start the games now?

Sam Sloan vs. Michael Sayers
1.g4 d5

Michael Sayers vs. Sam Sloan
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 f6 3.Nxe5

I doubt Mr. Sloan will agree to this. He probably uses the openings
for surprises in tournaments, but in this game format, which allows
for research in a chess library, I doubt the "surprise" effect has any
utility at compensating for the extreme defectiveness of the openings.
For instance, in the second game, there are known refutations that
one can just look up. There is no known refutation to the Grob, but
my research shows that agressive play often drives White into an
untenable position.

MS